EDharmonica, by Seydel

Anything apart from the two mainstream default harmonicas (Solo-tuned fully-valved chromatic, and un-valved Richter 10-hole diatonic). Alternate tunings, different construction, new functionality, interesting old designs, wishful-thinking... whatever!
Post Reply
User avatar
IaNerd
Posts: 271
Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:42 pm
Location: Iowa, USA

EDharmonica, by Seydel

Post by IaNerd » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:44 pm

Seydel has just launched a MAJOR initiative built around a new (?) alternate tuning. See https://edharmonica.com/

Lizzy
Posts: 96
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 1:42 pm
Location: Sweden

Re: EDharmonica, by Seydel

Post by Lizzy » Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:20 am

If i missed it..they dont tell how overblows are possible for beginners. I guess it is like on powerbender that they are possible to a lower tuned draw reed but you need training and skill to master them even on this edharmonica.

User avatar
IaNerd
Posts: 271
Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:42 pm
Location: Iowa, USA

Re: EDharmonica, by Seydel

Post by IaNerd » Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:24 am

Lizzy: Yes, they have not yet explained how/why the ob's would be easy.

ROBERT TEMPLE
Posts: 4
Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:49 am

Re: EDharmonica, by Seydel

Post by ROBERT TEMPLE » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:58 am

I am very interested to know what others think about the EDharp, particularly used in swing/jump/blues, the "West Coast" sound. One of the interesting things about the EDharp is that it could be valved for blow bends holes 1-10. I have yet to try out an EDharp but it is quite an interesting layout.

One thing that has caught my attention is the way that Seydel has labled the harps, they designate the major key of the harp by using the note of the 2 hole blow with its relative minor being blow hole 1. After closely looking at the EDharp layout and the way it is labled by Seydel, I noticed that if the 1 hole blow was the "major key" or tonic of the harp, let's say "C" for this project, then there is a very easy blow/draw pattern layed out for the "blues scale." Said scale, as I understand it, is tonic,-3,4,-5,5,-7,tonic. The only hard note to hit for many might be the 2ob to get the -5 [F#] but valving draw hole 3 would allow for a valve bend down to the F#, perhaps an easier way to approach the -5 in the lower range or higher as well.

People, tell us all about your impressons of the EDharp.

User avatar
Brendan
Posts: 390
Joined: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:28 pm
Contact:

Re: EDharmonica, by Seydel

Post by Brendan » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:42 am

This is a copy of a post on Modern Blues Harmonica:

--------------

Just for the record, there is nothing 'new' about the ED Harmonica tuning. It's simply the bottom end of Paddy Richter or Melody Maker repeated up the harp - except they start the scale on the A instead of the C.

The website says 'Patent Pending', but I'd be very surprised if a patent were ever granted. Not just because it's an existing tone layout repeated, but also because it's been publicly used and recorded with in the past.

Isacullah has mentioned it on Moden Blues Harmonica, with his own name I can't quite remember - Pentatonic Tuning? I think he's done videos with it also.

I've had a few harps in this tuning in my harp case for years, and got Richard Sleigh to make me a custom Marine Band version back in the early 90s. It's a very nice harp that I dubbed The Slayer, and still have :-)

I call the tuning Paddy Richter Extended, and recorded a couple of tracks using it in the XB40 on my 'New Chinese Harmonica' album of 2013. And, incidentally, those harps start the scale on the A note too, which sets a public precedent five years ago for that little variation... You can hear the x-reed version on the first track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjlIZLiFETg

I'm not knocking the tuning at all - I wouldn't have used it myself if it weren't good! But to try and claim it as something new and even patent-worthy is not just misleading, but also legally and factually false.

User avatar
Brendan
Posts: 390
Joined: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:28 pm
Contact:

Re: EDharmonica, by Seydel

Post by Brendan » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:31 am

Robert: there is a way to input tunings here. Please check this thread on the subject:

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=20

Post Reply