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Seydel Will Wilde tuning out now

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:28 pm
by triona
Just for your information - I do not have one yet:
https://www.seydel1847.de/WebRoot/Store ... etails.pdf

Here some more links to find:
https://www.harpforum.de/phpbb/viewtopi ... 91#p110691


dear greetings
triona

Re: Seydel Will Wilde tuning out now

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:56 am
by Brendan
Will based his Wilde tuning on PowerBender. I sent him a couple to try and he liked it, esp. the top octave. However he wanted to change the middle octave a bit to be more like Richter, retaining the 5 draw as a flat 7th in cross harp.

His variant works well, though you lose some of the easy chromaticism in that area which I like about PB. Swings and roundabouts! As with any alt tuning, you gain something and lose something, it depends what you're after. Good luck to him :-)

Re: Seydel Will Wilde tuning out now

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:45 am
by rishio
I still like the PowerBender. Have been using it exclusively for almost 3 years now. I find the Will Wilde tuning a bit eccentric with the double blow E in holes 5 & 6 blow and don’t like the lack of a bendability in hole 5 draw. Powerbender is a nicer balance of simplicity and flexibility for a general purpose tuning and the layout is more elegant and flowing in my opinion.

That said, I have always pondered about the following tuning and puzzled why I don’t see people using it:

C E G C E G C E G C
D G B D G B D G B D

On paper, it looks like the ideal layout for me. I love the first octave on Richter or PowerBender and this layout makes for a repeatable octave pattern. I feel like this would be great for improvising and playing all sorts of music. Easier than any other tuning if you can handle the bends (I can) and extremely juicy with chords and octaves throughout. I wonder if anyone has this layout and what the cons would be. I’m sticking with Powerbender because I’ve spent too many hours on it, burning it in my head, but I wonder why Brenden and others didn’t consider this one? Too many bends?

Re: Seydel Will Wilde tuning out now

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:45 am
by EdvinW
rishio wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:45 am
I still like the PowerBender. Have been using it exclusively for almost 3 years now. I find the Will Wilde tuning a bit eccentric with the double blow E in holes 5 & 6 blow and don’t like the lack of a bendability in hole 5 draw. Powerbender is a nicer balance of simplicity and flexibility for a general purpose tuning and the layout is more elegant and flowing in my opinion.

That said, I have always pondered about the following tuning and puzzled why I don’t see people using it:

C E G C E G C E G C
D G B D G B D G B D

On paper, it looks like the ideal layout for me. I love the first octave on Richter or PowerBender and this layout makes for a repeatable octave pattern. I feel like this would be great for improvising and playing all sorts of music. Easier than any other tuning if you can handle the bends (I can) and extremely juicy with chords and octaves throughout. I wonder if anyone has this layout and what the cons would be. I’m sticking with Powerbender because I’ve spent too many hours on it, burning it in my head, but I wonder why Brenden and others didn’t consider this one? Too many bends?
People have definitely thought about it! It pops up now and then, but I've never played one (mostly because I'm not that much of a bender myself). One place where this idea appears is in the bottom two octaves of a Lucky 13, and since you like the PowerBender maybe a Lucky 13 in PowerBender would be something for you? Or just order a normal harp from Seydel in this all-bottom tuning as a Christmas gift to yourself ;)

Re: Seydel Will Wilde tuning out now

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:55 am
by rishio
Well now I just discoveres the EDHarmonica tuning with which I am enamored. On paper it looks good. I think I might try and and see if I am to stick with Powerbender or go for the ED full time. The layout makes a lot of sense to my brain.
EdvinW wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:45 am
rishio wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:45 am
I still like the PowerBender. Have been using it exclusively for almost 3 years now. I find the Will Wilde tuning a bit eccentric with the double blow E in holes 5 & 6 blow and don’t like the lack of a bendability in hole 5 draw. Powerbender is a nicer balance of simplicity and flexibility for a general purpose tuning and the layout is more elegant and flowing in my opinion.

That said, I have always pondered about the following tuning and puzzled why I don’t see people using it:

C E G C E G C E G C
D G B D G B D G B D

On paper, it looks like the ideal layout for me. I love the first octave on Richter or PowerBender and this layout makes for a repeatable octave pattern. I feel like this would be great for improvising and playing all sorts of music. Easier than any other tuning if you can handle the bends (I can) and extremely juicy with chords and octaves throughout. I wonder if anyone has this layout and what the cons would be. I’m sticking with Powerbender because I’ve spent too many hours on it, burning it in my head, but I wonder why Brenden and others didn’t consider this one? Too many bends?
People have definitely thought about it! It pops up now and then, but I've never played one (mostly because I'm not that much of a bender myself). One place where this idea appears is in the bottom two octaves of a Lucky 13, and since you like the PowerBender maybe a Lucky 13 in PowerBender would be something for you? Or just order a normal harp from Seydel in this all-bottom tuning as a Christmas gift to yourself ;)