Lucky 13 Power Chromatic key of D

A space for players interested in my specialist harmonicas, alternate tunings, instructional material, recordings etc to ask questions and share information, experiences, videos etc.
Sachlaw
Posts: 45
Joined: Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:30 pm

Re: Lucky 13 Power Chromatic key of D

Post by Sachlaw » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:27 pm

Malarz wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:53 pm
Another question: how does the PowerBender compliment the PowerChromatic? I can see that because of my musical interests one harp will never be enough!
...

Ken
Ken,
The PowerBender (PB) middle octave in any will be the same as the PowerChromatic (PC) repeating octave in that same key, just as a Standard tuned harmonica middle octave is the same as a standard tuned chromatic of the same key. If you mean that learning the PC increases the skill set of playing a PB, and vice versa, then I would say they compliment each other well, assuming you work on building melodies off of the middle octave of the PB. If you tape the first three holes on a PB, and focus on holes 4 - 7, you will pick up the pattern a bit quicker.

Is your melodeon tuned in the key of D or C? If it is tuned in the key of C, and you find yourself playing tunes in D, then what you are doing is playing the 3rd position of the instrument/Dorian mode of the C scale. I see in another comment you mentioned you had returned an F# harp to play with, but also you picked up a Chromatic. Is the chromatic a C, G, or D?

If you are playing a C melodeon on your songs in the key D, and you want your harp to match chord tones of the position/scale, then you may also like a PB in the key of C. I recommend the Lucky 13 PB version. If you want a Lucky 13 PC in C, you have to re-tune it. If you look under may name, and my posts, I believe there is some discussion in this forum on how to do this with minimal changes to the Lucky 13 PC in the key of G. If you go that route, definitely look on here for advice.

User avatar
triona
Posts: 255
Joined: Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:24 pm
Location: Aue / Germany

Re: Lucky 13 Power Chromatic key of D

Post by triona » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:29 pm

Malarz wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:53 pm
I think I am beginning to understand how to choose which harmonicas I might want—all of them!
...
After reading your posts I plan to buy at least the PC in G as a starter. Then as I begin to develop my skills I can make a better decision about which other harps to buy.
I guess you just have got it. :D
And to realize this step by step might be a quite good idea. (And if there might be some lack of money, this is enforced automatically.)

The PC in G as a starter is a good idea too. Talking about playing tunes in the key of D and related modes, this would be what there is called the "second position". Following the website about the french canadian harmonica which Sachlaw had linked, this seems to be very common within Quebecois music.

Malarz wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:53 pm
my age (67)
That is just the same with me. :D
And I have collected dozens and dozens - maybe some hundreds? - of harmonicas over the last 50 years. I never have counted them. This is highly addictive. :lol:

Malarz wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:53 pm
Another question: how does the PowerBender compliment the PowerChromatic?

I do not know the answer to that question. Although I have a Power Chromatic maybe since half a year, I did not fully understand it yet. But here are some people who can do this. (Edit: in the meantime already done by Sachlaw.)

I glanced over this site. This is a very good recommendation - not only for Quebecois music.


Enjoy your new harmonica(s). I'm sure they will breed by the time. ;)

dear greetings
triona
Aw, Thou beloved, do hearken to the Banshee's lonely croon!
sinn féin - ça ira !
Cad é sin do'n té sin nach mbaineann sin dó


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1yI3H ... 9ktgzTR2qg

User avatar
Brendan
Posts: 547
Joined: Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:28 pm
Contact:

Re: Lucky 13 Power Chromatic key of D

Post by Brendan » Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:42 pm

As others have said here, the Lucky 13 PowerChromatic in G can easily be played in D. In fact, that's my favourite position. It is similar to the low octave cross harp on a Richter diatonic in that your tonic, third and fifth are all bendable draw notes. But the good news is this pattern repeats in the next two octaves up as well.

Only one semitone bend needed to get the major seventh C#.

Malarz
Posts: 29
Joined: Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:00 pm

Re: Lucky 13 Power Chromatic key of D

Post by Malarz » Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:07 pm

Thank you.

Malarz
Posts: 29
Joined: Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:00 pm

Re: Lucky 13 Power Chromatic key of D

Post by Malarz » Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:48 pm

Thanks to all who responded with answers to my questions, clarification of my confusion, and encouragement to buy! I placed the order.

Ken

Sachlaw
Posts: 45
Joined: Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:30 pm

Re: Lucky 13 Power Chromatic key of D

Post by Sachlaw » Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:14 am

@Marlarz
Gnarly started a thread on the PowerChromatic that has a lot of good info. Brendan has given a lot of input on this tuning in that thread.

I think you will find that you will pick it up quite fast, given the regular breath pattern. The mixolydian and dorian modes were the ones I got comfortable with first. Practicing with it has yet to get old for me. I often pick one up just to workout anything that comes to mind or play along with something Alexa just suggested. The tuning fits many styles.

I started really picking up this tuning by learning how to dial in the modes on backing tracks that included multiple modes and/or positions. There are tons of backing tracks online for this. Brendan also has a really good track on his PowerBender CD that does this in the key of A.

Malarz
Posts: 29
Joined: Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:00 pm

Re: Lucky 13 Power Chromatic key of D

Post by Malarz » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:32 pm

Thanks! I’m looking forward to learning how to play it. For the past few months I’ve been playing G chromatic as my first chromatic and more or less first attempt at playing harmonica. The Lucky 13 PC seemed to be a good step into more of a diatonic harp.

there is no hangup in shipping between China and US I think it will be here in a few weeks.

Ken

Lizzy
Posts: 139
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 1:42 pm
Location: Sweden

Re: Lucky 13 Power Chromatic key of D

Post by Lizzy » Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:05 am

I use both PB and PC. PB have i used for several years and PC about 2 years. Latley my addiction have been more on PC but use PB from time to time. I like PC because only one note is missing and only a half bend on all holes. This simplifies it for me and i think it is a very versatile tuning for many different styles. Like it been said here already PB and PC work well together and those are my main tunings so long. I use Seydels soloist pro 12 hole diatonic in G, Ab, A, Bb, Low E and this cover the most i need.

Post Reply